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		<title>By: Jonathan Elliot</title>
		<link>http://prometheusink.com/2010/me-vs-atheism/comment-page-1/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I&#039;m not entirely sure what you mean by origins of common deities.  Do you mean &quot;we all need healthy crops so all invented a fertility deity&quot;?  Perhaps we could call that the deities of necessity. Or &quot;we all experience love so attribute &#039;love&#039; as a high attribute of deity&quot;?  We might call that the deities of psychology.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My first reaction is a sense of caution around extrapolating from our feelings to how g0ds came to exist.  I have no real expertise in this area though, it&#039;s just a feeling.  I&#039;m also thinking of Jung, for some reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I&#39;m not entirely sure what you mean by origins of common deities.  Do you mean &#8220;we all need healthy crops so all invented a fertility deity&#8221;?  Perhaps we could call that the deities of necessity. Or &#8220;we all experience love so attribute &#39;love&#39; as a high attribute of deity&#8221;?  We might call that the deities of psychology.</p>
<p>My first reaction is a sense of caution around extrapolating from our feelings to how g0ds came to exist.  I have no real expertise in this area though, it&#39;s just a feeling.  I&#39;m also thinking of Jung, for some reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Elliot</title>
		<link>http://prometheusink.com/2010/me-vs-atheism/comment-page-1/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s perfectly OK to label yourself an agnostic while still being open to the possibility of spiritual experience/knowledge.   Labels are just pointers, it&#039;s only in discussion that we understand the nuance of each others&#039; position, imo.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are plenty of agnostics who are at the atheist end of the scale, and that&#039;s fine.  I call myself an &quot;open agnostic&quot;, by which I mean I&#039;m open to the idea that either might be true - no spiritual reality, or vice versa.  From discussions I&#039;ve participated, agnostics can have vehement disagreements among themselves, just like any other religion ;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m agnostic about aliens for example, but think they probably haven&#039;t visited earth.  if I had reasonable evidence that we&#039;ve met some I&#039;d have to change my mind.  If it was important to me, I&#039;d probably be on the search for ET right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#39;s perfectly OK to label yourself an agnostic while still being open to the possibility of spiritual experience/knowledge.   Labels are just pointers, it&#39;s only in discussion that we understand the nuance of each others&#39; position, imo.</p>
<p>There are plenty of agnostics who are at the atheist end of the scale, and that&#39;s fine.  I call myself an &#8220;open agnostic&#8221;, by which I mean I&#39;m open to the idea that either might be true &#8211; no spiritual reality, or vice versa.  From discussions I&#39;ve participated, agnostics can have vehement disagreements among themselves, just like any other religion ;)</p>
<p>I&#39;m agnostic about aliens for example, but think they probably haven&#39;t visited earth.  if I had reasonable evidence that we&#39;ve met some I&#39;d have to change my mind.  If it was important to me, I&#39;d probably be on the search for ET right now.</p>
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		<title>By: collinvanuden</title>
		<link>http://prometheusink.com/2010/me-vs-atheism/comment-page-1/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>collinvanuden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan - thanks for checking out the site, and your comments. I had labeled myself an agnostic once upon a time, so good call.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Then I went and got all thinky and decided if I ever did have any kind of fully fledged spiritual experience that I&#039;d probably be OK with that, and that having had that (hypothetical) experience, I could hardly claim to have no knowledge of it could I? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In regard to this post, I&#039;d hoped to distinguish &quot;I don&#039;t know&quot; from &quot;We can&#039;t know&quot; (generalized version of agnosticism, for those playing at home) - Sorry if that didn&#039;t come through clearly.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lately, I&#039;ve been toying with the theory that the assorted deities we&#039;ve inherited were originally anthropomorphic expressions of things we did know about ourselves, and the way that we &#039;work&#039; - still playing with the concept, but would love to hear what you think on the origins of common deities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan &#8211; thanks for checking out the site, and your comments. I had labeled myself an agnostic once upon a time, so good call.</p>
<p>Then I went and got all thinky and decided if I ever did have any kind of fully fledged spiritual experience that I&#39;d probably be OK with that, and that having had that (hypothetical) experience, I could hardly claim to have no knowledge of it could I? </p>
<p>In regard to this post, I&#39;d hoped to distinguish &#8220;I don&#39;t know&#8221; from &#8220;We can&#39;t know&#8221; (generalized version of agnosticism, for those playing at home) &#8211; Sorry if that didn&#39;t come through clearly.</p>
<p>Lately, I&#39;ve been toying with the theory that the assorted deities we&#39;ve inherited were originally anthropomorphic expressions of things we did know about ourselves, and the way that we &#39;work&#39; &#8211; still playing with the concept, but would love to hear what you think on the origins of common deities.</p>
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		<title>By: collinvanuden</title>
		<link>http://prometheusink.com/2010/me-vs-atheism/comment-page-1/#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>collinvanuden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Markus! Pretty sure that takes our readership up to about 5!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Markus! Pretty sure that takes our readership up to about 5!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Elliot</title>
		<link>http://prometheusink.com/2010/me-vs-atheism/comment-page-1/#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incidentally, from what you&#039;ve said about &quot;I don&#039;t know&quot; above, you sound like an agnostic.  I don&#039;t wish to label you, however that&#039;s how I label myself currently and occasionally write about such ideas.  Well OK, often write about such ideas ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incidentally, from what you&#39;ve said about &#8220;I don&#39;t know&#8221; above, you sound like an agnostic.  I don&#39;t wish to label you, however that&#39;s how I label myself currently and occasionally write about such ideas.  Well OK, often write about such ideas ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Elliot</title>
		<link>http://prometheusink.com/2010/me-vs-atheism/comment-page-1/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see you do write (talk) at length :)  See?  I read your &quot;about&quot; page.  Well met.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jonathan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see you do write (talk) at length :)  See?  I read your &#8220;about&#8221; page.  Well met.</p>
<p>Jonathan</p>
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		<title>By: Markus Eßletzbichler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markus Eßletzbichler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 22:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great point you made there! ... I found myself astonished about agreeing with you pretty much 100%. You&#039;ve got a great style anyway, I guess I will check by every now and then ...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Oh, and before I forget: FIRST!!!!!!!! :D keep it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point you made there! &#8230; I found myself astonished about agreeing with you pretty much 100%. You&#39;ve got a great style anyway, I guess I will check by every now and then &#8230;</p>
<p>Oh, and before I forget: FIRST!!!!!!!! :D keep it up!</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Me vs Atheism &#124; Stuff I'm not qualified to say -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Me vs Atheism &#124; Stuff I'm not qualified to say -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 08:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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